University of Hawaiʻi students talk about 15 to Finish.

To learn more about the program go to the “15 to Finish is key to timely graduation” story or visit the campaign website.

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  1. I think the 15 to finish plan is a great idea, but this plan also has several serious drawbacks.

    The first is that the plan does not account for non-traditional students that have to work to support themselves when no other support system is available such as parents. While it is possible to take five classes and work, the percentage of students that receive high grades are few and far between.

    The second is that additional coursework pressures of taking upper division classes attribute to lower student affective behavior. As to say that the more difficult subjects lower students emotional well-being.

    The third is “What is the student is having difficulty with certain subjects?” For example, if a student has difficulty with learning the Japanese language, then how will the student feel if he or she fails that class or has to drop the class? The 15 to finish program does not provide accurate numbers for students that have trouble learning certain subjects.

  2. Great points. The high number of non-traditional students at UH makes this plan little more than an ideal for most. Working full time and taking 5 classes is extremely stressful and frustrating (coming from someone doing it) and keeping grades up only adds pressure.

    Aside from that, by the time students start taking upper division course work it becomes more and more often that classes fill up and are not available until the next semester or sometimes even until the next year, making it kind of impossible to complete all necessary coursework in 4 years.

    I appreciate the University thinking of their students and trying to come up with some kind of ‘fresh’ and ‘new’ idea but honestly until they stop increasing the rate of tuition, and decreasing the number of classes available due to budget cuts, it’s kind of a joke.

  3. With the tuition continuing to rise, taking the max number of credits is really the only way to be able to afford school. If students take 15-18 credits in their first couple of years, they can slow down when the classes get harder.

    I don’t think it’s aimed at non-traditional students so much as perpetual students — the ones who live off their grants and loans as long as possible.

  4. In support of the previous post before, the poster brought up quite a few valid points that this campaign fails to recognize.

    It’s true, the 15 to finish campaign does not apply to the entire student body. Some students need to work to support themselves while attending school, some may even hold down more than one job. I, myself, had to hold down up to 3 jobs at one time while pursuing my STEM degree. And doing so was not a walk in the park. Time was always limited and money was not readily available, putting me in the difficult position of having to lesson the credit workloads and extending my graduation date. Meanwhile, it’s even quite the contradiction to encourage this campaign while UHM increases tuition costs and induces unnecessary fees to its students.

    Furthermore, given that this is a public university system, additional (and most often unnecessary) classes are required in order to graduate… in addition to whatever is required in the student’s major program. Many programs at the University require for students to take placement exams, and sometimes, students are only allowed to take these exams once a sem. In other words, fail the exam and wait for next semester to try again… while delaying graduation for another semester. This same notion applies to those who try to enter highly competitive programs such as nursing. How will this campaign address overlooked issues as these? For the students pursuing nursing, engineering, architecture, and any other major that requires a great amount of timely stress and effort…. I believe that taking a comfortable amount of credits (per sem) is sufficient and graduation time should NOT have to be made within 4 years. With that being said, I’m not entirely sure what the main point of this campaign is trying to address?

    Finish in 4 years, graduate on time, begin a career VERSUS Finish in more than 4 years, graduate, and still retain the exact same personal and academic achievements as those who completed in 4 years (yes, with an additional amount of debt). Regardless, I believe that all students are at the University to invest in their future, and with great investment comes great amounts of debt that WILL be paid off with the careers that the students have worked so hard for. The 15 to Finish is a great campaign, but the campaigners need to make revisions in order to accomodate the entire student body….. the minorities, the underrepresented, and the underprivileged.

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